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Well, it was only a matter of time.
Along with such 'surefire' blockbusters as Terminator 4, MGM studios announced today that production on The Hobbit is slated to start sometime in the next couple years. As it stands they desperately want Peter Jackson to direct (no particular surprise there), but if this isn't possible they'll be hunting down some fresh Hollywood meat. So...am I enthused? Sort of. If it could be made to the same standards as LOTR, if it could be given appropriate depth and character, it could be a masterpiece. But The Hobbit is also a childen's tale, and differs greatly from LOTR...so we'll see. I just hope they find someone reputable if Peter isn't interested. The merest possibilty that it could be directed by Joel Schumacher sends chills down my spine :sad:

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Where are your sources! Gah! Though, I belive you, foolishly...

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I read the story a couple of places too, The Hobbit, Terminator 4 and a sequel to The Thomas Crown Affair. I'll look around real quick and edit this post with a link to the story.

Edit: Here's one story about it, http://chud.com/news/7582.

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MGM have annoucined it as part of the 2007 production slate - BUT the fact of the matter is the they only hold the distribution rights for thee property while New Line hold the rights to actually make it - and as far as I know they haven't conceded those rights to anyone.

I think it's just MGM trying to bolster it's lagging share price with some hot goss.


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Truly? Then I'm either heartbroken or overjoyed. There have been rumours stirring about this flick for ages...I suppose we can add this announcement to the pile. Unless through some madness it is made - until then I'll stick with my so-so Rankin-Bass production :lol:

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The only way to do this flick is with PJ, Weta, McKellen and Serkis. I'm not sure what to do about Bilbo... Holms is too old, but they could use the process used in X3 on him... I don't see anyone else as him.

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Why not cast Martin Freeman? Everyone says he looks like a hobbit anyway :)

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Totta sighting!!

PS - Are you coming to London in December, Totta? All the cool people will be there. Well, not all of them, but many.

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Totta sighting!!

PS - Are you coming to London in December, Totta? All the cool people will be there. Well, not all of them, but many.


I don't know. I might be in the middle of a gigantic project building a 3.500 m2 indoor activity center at that time (true) but if I'm free I will consider it although I think I will save my money for the QI meeting in the spring instead (hopefully)

By the way, every day is Totta sighting for me you know ;)

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Why not cast Martin Freeman? Everyone says he looks like a hobbit anyway :)


He'd be my choice as well.

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I don't know. I might be in the middle of a gigantic project building a 3.500 m2 indoor activity center at that time (true) ...

By the way, every day is Totta sighting for me you know

You should put up a webcam so we can watch your progress and then we, too, can have a Totta sighting every day.

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QUINT: I saw in Variety that THE HOBBIT came up. The MGM thing. Did you see this?

PETER JACKSON: Where the guy who runs MGM was announcing their tentpoles and saying they were doing TERMINATOR 4 and they want me to make 2 HOBBIT films? I was reading that this morning on the net. It's a rather strange thing to wake to. I'm up for it, but somebody should phone me because I'm getting a bit booked out at the moment!


Everybody asks me about THE HOBBIT, you know? But the reality is I've never had a conversation with anybody about it. Not one person has ever made a phone call to me. I don't know. The irony is that we're acquiring our own projects now and we're buying the rights to books. The reality is, to be quite honest with you, we're getting ourselves now nice and busy, in a good way, for the next 4 years. So, people have not (spoken to us) about THE HOBBIT and it's making it more and more impossible for us to be involved.


QUINT: So, if you got a phone call tomorrow telling you that you could have any budget you need and creative freedom, but it has to be finished and in theaters by December 2009. Would you find room for THE HOBBIT?


PETER JACKSON: Well, it depends. No one has phoned me, which is kind of weird, but I don't know. We're very, very excited and committed about the films that we're working on now, so I don't know. I'd have to sit down and look at it all. Obviously, I'm interested in THE HOBBIT, but right now we have no emotional investment in it. For the last few years, we have put our hearts into other projects. It would seem strange to have somebody else do it, although some part of me would be interested in going to see somebody else's HOBBIT, be able to buy my popcorn and go and sit and watch the film.


I'm not against that and if our schedule is impossible, then that's what they'll do. They'll certainly go and get someone else to make it. They won't wait, which is their right.


The full interview HERE

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And McKellen said that he'd love to reprise his role as Gandalf (partly because he'd hate to see anyone else playing the role - a prejudice I can understand).

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i want, want, want this film to be made. it could be awesome! if only for smaug! but i only want the LOTR crew to do this.

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Totta wrote:
Why not cast Martin Freeman? Everyone says he looks like a hobbit anyway :)


I think Martin Freeman should play Renfield.

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Chris Casino wrote:
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Why not cast Martin Freeman? Everyone says he looks like a hobbit anyway :)


I think Martin Freeman should play Renfield.


I first read that as Penfold (and Dangermouse is coming back I believe)

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Ol' Peculier wrote:
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I think Martin Freeman should play Renfield.


I first read that as Penfold (and Dangermouse is coming back I believe)


No, no, I mean Renfield, you know, Dracula's ghoul who eats insects?

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Chris Casino wrote:
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Why not cast Martin Freeman? Everyone says he looks like a hobbit anyway :)


I think Martin Freeman should play Renfield.


I first read that as Penfold (and Dangermouse is coming back I believe)


No, no, I mean Renfield, you know, Dracula's ghoul who eats insects?

Are you sure you're not confusing the Hobbit with the Discworld series?

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Why not cast Martin Freeman? Everyone says he looks like a hobbit anyway :)


I think Martin Freeman should play Renfield.


I first read that as Penfold (and Dangermouse is coming back I believe)


No, no, I mean Renfield, you know, Dracula's ghoul who eats insects?

Are you sure you're not confusing the Hobbit with the Discworld series?


Yes. I meant he should play Renfield period, seperate from the Hobbit. I don't know what he should play in the Hobbit because I never read it.

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He should play the Hobbit.

Legolas and Gimli can play their own fathers. And Andy Serkis MUST return.

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Actually, Legolas can skip the middleman and just play himself, since he's over a millennia old.

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He should play the Hobbit.

Legolas and Gimli can play their own fathers. And Andy Serkis MUST return.

Legolas (and by that I assume you mean Orlando Bloom) does not need to play his father - he can be himself as he was alive and well and looked excatly the same age during the Hobbit as he did during the LotR time frame.

Serkis is a given I would imagine not matter who makes the film.


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yup, it would be a nice possibility for LOTR hero cameos. at rivendell we could get a glimpse of arwen (if she´s at home at that period) or her brothers. oh, and i can´t check the ages now, but wouldn´t it be possible to have a younger aragorn running around at rivendell, too? or a young sam back at the shire? (probably too early though)
but "gimli" as his father is a great idea.

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Time to check the Appendises:

Aragorn would have been 10 years old during the time of The Hobbitstory and would have been living at Rivendell for about 8 years, so it's possible he could appear but he would be under the name Estel, and his true identity unkown to him. Arwen would be in Lorien and would not return to Rivendell until nine years after The hobbit story finised. Samwise (who is 14 years younger than Frodo) will not be born for another 42 years.


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Serkis is a given I would imagine no matter who makes the film.


I think Serkis would be perfect as Bilbo, made up slightly differently from the early Smeagol - so then he could take both lead roles in The Hobbit.

The PR machine could make much mileage out of that...

Doesn't the dragon Smaug speak? Who could voice that?
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Serkis is a given I would imagine no matter who makes the film.


I think Serkis would be perfect as Bilbo, made up slightly differently from the early Smeagol - so then he could take both lead roles in The Hobbit.

The PR machine could make much mileage out of that...

Doesn't the dragon Smaug speak? Who could voice that?
Rickman, Tom Baker, Zoe Wanamaker...(?)


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Time to check the Appendises:

Aragorn would have been 10 years old during the time of The Hobbitstory and would have been living at Rivendell for about 8 years, so it's possible he could appear but he would be under the name Estel, and his true identity unkown to him. Arwen would be in Lorien and would not return to Rivendell until nine years after The hobbit story finised. Samwise (who is 14 years younger than Frodo) will not be born for another 42 years.


you da man!
so, let´s see a small dark-haired child looking curiously at the strange party arriving in rivendell ...

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He should play the Hobbit.

Legolas and Gimli can play their own fathers. And Andy Serkis MUST return.

Legolas (and by that I assume you mean Orlando Bloom) does not need to play his father - he can be himself.


Yes, but Legolas didn't appear in the Hobbit, did he? I mean, the last I read it was ages ago.

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Doesn't the dragon Smaug speak? Who could voice that?
Rickman, Tom Baker, Zoe Wanamaker...(?)


Ian McKellen! Lord, I'd have him play every part in that flick... Or John Rhys-Davies, he did Treebeard pretty well, and I think the voice fits.

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Waux Trident wrote:
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He should play the Hobbit.

Legolas and Gimli can play their own fathers. And Andy Serkis MUST return.

Legolas (and by that I assume you mean Orlando Bloom) does not need to play his father - he can be himself.


Yes, but Legolas didn't appear in the Hobbit, did he? I mean, the last I read it was ages ago.

No but his Father did - PJ has mentioned that Legolas could make an appearence in The Hobbit movie.


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Doesn't the dragon Smaug speak? Who could voice that?
Rickman, Tom Baker, Zoe Wanamaker...(?)


Ian McKellen! Lord, I'd have him play every part in that flick... Or John Rhys-Davies, he did Treebeard pretty well, and I think the voice fits.


Yeah, fair enough, but Tom Baker is the most excellent excellent choice ever made.

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Oddly enough, I adore the voice for Smaug in the animated version. Yes, the piece is, for the most part, deplorable...but that voice, coupled with the feline representation, was a bit of genius.

So...something along those lines. Or maybe Paul Reubens.

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Aye, is a right mess they've gotten themselves into. I'm quite angry about the lack of Ian McKellen... I mean, he is Gandalf.

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I don't think McKellan has said anywhere that he won't appear in a non-jackson Hobbit has he?


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That's right. All he said was that he's disappointed.

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Thank Bob.

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my vote goes to Bill Bailey as one of the dwarfs! apparantly, allegedly, he auditioned for the part of Gimli and didn't get it but he'd make a great dwarf in the Hobbit

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Ack. I felt this news was inevitable, but that doesn't mean I'm not crestfallen. Everyone - sign the petitions.

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Actually, the only petition I'd sign would be the Bring Back McKellen petition and right now, that crisis has not yet presented itself.

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Zaentz Rings in Jackson for Prequels

As Lord of the Rings fans mounted a protest following word that New Line had dropped Peter Jackson from consideration as director of The Hobbit and another Lord of the Rings prequel, producer Saul Zaentz has given assurances that Jackson will indeed direct the two films. A German website, Elbenwald.de, posted an interview with Zaentz, who acquired the rights to the works of the late Rings writer, J.R.R. Tolkien, in 1976 (the Saul Zaentz Company owns Tolkien Enterprises), in which Zaentz says, "It will definitely be shot by Peter Jackson. ... Next year The Hobbit rights will fall back to my company. I suppose that Peter will wait because he knows that he will make the best deal with us. And he is fed up with the studios: to get his profit share on the Rings trilogy he had to sue New Line. With us, in contrast, he knows that he will be paid fairly and artistically supported without reservation." (The preceding quotation is a translation that appeared on TheHobbit-Movie.com from the German interview posted on Elbenwald.de.)

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Great news, yeah, but... another Lord of the Rings prequel?

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