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Hey, cutting the dinner-scene would substanitally reduce the duration of the whole ep...

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So perhaps we should reduce it by O(4 minutes) so it cuts it down to a more standard length of 27.5 minutes...

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4 minutes? That'd be great!

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So perhaps we should reduce it by O(4 minutes) so it cuts it down to a more standard length of 27.5 minutes...

Yes!

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Hey ya'll! I listened to episode one on the treadmill this morning. It was fun, and I think you all are doing a great job! Is there a timetable for the next episode(s)?

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Wow, thanks Vagabond! It's good to get some positive feedback on the episode from an outsider.

I am now fully at uni, once the internet is all up and sorted I'll be able to download Veet's remix and listen to it, and we can start work on episode II with recording the end of the dinner scene, the horse scenes, etc. However I have a cold at the moment so it's probably best to postpone reading my lines for a few days!

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There's been another version, which has been edited from my version by Veet (I have then made one small further change.) It can soon be found at

http://www.whis-kers.org/dirkgently/uploads/DGHDA2.mp3

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Which is the official version, then? This reminds me of how they release a movie with some or no special features and then you buy it only to realize that in a couple of weeks they are gonna sell the mondo 50-disc Special Collector's Director's Extended Cut With Never-Before-Seen Footage Edition.

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There's been another version, which has been edited from my version by Veet (I have then made one small further change.) It can soon be found at

http://www.whis-kers.org/dirkgently/uploads/DGHDA2.mp3


I liked it. Admittedly, not the best I've heard, but certainly not the worst. Some of the audio was a little hard to understand. Especially the bit at the beginning. But then again, my mother says I'm deaf as a doornail. I loved the horse and monk bits.

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The bit at the beginning is still a temporary "joke" version of the scene - we've yet to recieve the "real" one

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The bit at the beginning is still a temporary "joke" version of the scene - we've yet to recieve the "real" one

I am yet to recieve Unno's lines. The recording I have sounds like a telephone on a helicopter.

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Well, we could re-write the scene, so it'd actually be a phone convo on a helicopter...

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I am yet to recieve Unno's lines. The recording I have sounds like a telephone on a helicopter.


Umm, they've been up on dirk_gently_radio@yahoo.co.uk since May 15. I just downloaded and checked myself. The sound quality is quite good. Look at the email with the subject of "Gilks Lines."

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Well, we could re-write the scene, so it'd actually be a phone convo on a helicopter...


"You mean they want to arrest me over the phone? Could be. I'm a pretty dangerous dude when I'm cornered."

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Umm, they've been up on dirk_gently_radio@yahoo.co.uk since May 15. I just downloaded and checked myself. The sound quality is quite good. Look at the email with the subject of "Gilks Lines."

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I'll get right on it.


By the hey...should I give Dirk a slight Romanian accent when he's drunk, or is that a dumb idea?

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Alright.

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I'd like you to re-record the line "please, this is Svlad Cjelli" without emphasising the name 'Svlad'. It just doesn't sound right with "please, this is...SVLAD! ...Cjelli."
Same thing about "Dirk Svlad Cjelli sounds ridiculous".
And also the line "what this envelope contains was written by you under hypnosis"...try re-recording that one, emphasising only 'what', 'you' and 'hypnosis' (don't emphasise 'by').
I'd also like to hear a less angry, more sarchastic version of the "I just want to congratulate you on your filching skills" and "No, you get a nice little prison cell for this, Svlad" lines.
Other than that, it's all great, mate. :mrgreen:
I loved the way you said "You won't enjoy it anyway". It just sounded so malicious. :cool:

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By the hey...should I give Dirk a slight Romanian accent when he's drunk, or is that a dumb idea?


Why have You never told us You can do a Romanian accent??


(Or... You did?)

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Why have You never told us You can do a Romanian accent??

(Or... You did?)


Nobody ever asked me. But I do believe I mentioned it once...though I might have referred to it as a Transylvanian accent or something.

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Actually, in August I met a couple of Romanian debaters who had such a great accent that I think we should jump at Fleppo's idea like a shot.

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Really? What kind of music did You play?
Bit of jazz, bit of funk? Junk?

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Actually, in August I met a couple of Romanian debaters who had such a great accent that I think we should jump at Fleppo's idea like a shot.


Well, I can't guarantee that my interpretation of a Romanian accent will sound just like the debaters you met, though, since I haven't met them and my 'Romanian accent' is just a bad Dracula impression:P
So my 'drunken Dirk' is pretty much a britified, drunken version of Dracula.

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Really? What kind of music did You play?
Bit of jazz, bit of funk? Junk?


Well that was the reason we split up, poor music, had some great conversations though.


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Actually, in August I met a couple of Romanian debaters who had such a great accent that I think we should jump at Fleppo's idea like a shot.


Well, I can't guarantee that my interpretation of a Romanian accent will sound just like the debaters you met, though, since I haven't met them and my 'Romanian accent' is just a bad Dracula impression:P
So my 'drunken Dirk' is pretty much a britified, drunken version of Dracula.


Well, that sounds even hoopier to me now.

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Alright.

And oh,
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I'd like you to re-record the line "please, this is Svlad Cjelli" without emphasising the name 'Svlad'. It just doesn't sound right with "please, this is...SVLAD! ...Cjelli."
Same thing about "Dirk Svlad Cjelli sounds ridiculous".
And also the line "what this envelope contains was written by you under hypnosis"...try re-recording that one, emphasising only 'what', 'you' and 'hypnosis' (don't emphasise 'by').
I'd also like to hear a less angry, more sarchastic version of the "I just want to congratulate you on your filching skills" and "No, you get a nice little prison cell for this, Svlad" lines.
Other than that, it's all great, mate. :mrgreen:
I loved the way you said "You won't enjoy it anyway". It just sounded so malicious. :cool:


Can do, but I can't do it right away. I'll need a couple of weeks. Plus, a few questions. In the first two lines you mentioned, what should I emphasize? The only thing that makes sense to me is "Svlad," because that's what they're arguing about. Also, I don't understand how it's possible to empasize "what" in the envelope line. Should I just emphasize the other words you listed?

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In the first two lines you mentioned, what should I emphasize? The only thing that makes sense to me is "Svlad," because that's what they're arguing about.

"Dirk Svlad Cjelli sounds ridiculous."
At this point, Gilks doesn't know that Dirk has gotten rid of the name Svlad. And it's not the 'Svlad' part that sounds ridiculous. The thing that Gilks finds ridiculous is the fact that Svlad has added the name Dirk, which doesn't even fit together with Svlad Cjelli. So if anything should be emphasised, it's Dirk, since that's the new name. However, it will probably sound better without emphasis, since it's the full name that Gilks finds ridiculous, and not just one part of it.

"Constable! Please... This is Svlad Cjelli."
If Gilks was correcting Dirk, he would emphasise 'Svlad', but he's not correcting Dirk. Gilks is just simply disregarding Dirk's wish of being called Dirk. Gilks basically doesn't 'give a flying pig' about what Dirk wants to be called, and so there should be no emphasis in particular, since emphasis would imply that he does give a flying pig, which he doesn't. He's not even talking to Dirk anymore. He's talking to the constable, introducing Svlad Cjelli, and since the constable has never said that Svlad is the wrong name, there is no reason at all for Gilks to emphasise the name Svlad, as the constable doesn't even have a flying pig to give about the subject.

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I don't understand how it's possible to empasize "what" in the envelope line.

It's simple. You just say it as if you're interrupting someone. I.e. by saying the word "what" slightly (only slightly) louder and in a higher pitch as if to get attention, and then just continuing with the line in a normal tone, and finally emphasising 'you' and 'hypnosis', as if to correct someone who has claimed that it was written by Bob, under the influence of alcohol.

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"Dirk Svlad Cjelli sounds ridiculous."
At this point, Gilks doesn't know that Dirk has gotten rid of the name Svlad. And it's not the 'Svlad' part that sounds ridiculous. The thing that Gilks finds ridiculous is the fact that Svlad has added the name Dirk, which doesn't even fit together with Svlad Cjelli. So if anything should be emphasised, it's Dirk, since that's the new name. However, it will probably sound better without emphasis, since it's the full name that Gilks finds ridiculous, and not just one part of it.

Ok, I'll try that.

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"Constable! Please... This is Svlad Cjelli."
If Gilks was correcting Dirk, he would emphasise 'Svlad', but he's not correcting Dirk. Gilks is just simply disregarding Dirk's wish of being called Dirk. Gilks basically doesn't 'give a flying pig' about what Dirk wants to be called, and so there should be no emphasis in particular, since emphasis would imply that he does give a flying pig, which he doesn't...

Oh, but he does. He's rubbing it in. Any chance he gets to exert his power over Dirk, Gilks is going to take. If he doesn't care what Dirk wants to be called, why is he even introducing him to the Constable?

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It's simple. You just say it as if you're interrupting someone. I.e. by saying the word "what" slightly (only slightly) louder and in a higher pitch as if to get attention, and then just continuing with the line in a normal tone, and finally emphasising 'you' and 'hypnosis', as if to correct someone who has claimed that it was written by Bob, under the influence of alcohol.[/quote]

But Gilks isn't interupting Dirk. He can't. It's not in his character. He can't think on his feet very well. Notice how in his only interruption of the scene ("Quiet Cjelli") he has to pause and throw in an "Anyway" afterwards to stall for time?

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Oh, but he does. He's rubbing it in. Any chance he gets to exert his power over Dirk, Gilks is going to take. If he doesn't care what Dirk wants to be called, why is he even introducing him to the Constable?

Because the constable has never met Dirk before. And yes, Gilks is rubbing the Svlad thing in, but he doesn't have to emphasise it, since it annoys Dirk just as much if it isn't emphasised. The fact that Gilks introduces Dirk as Svlad to the constable annoys Dirk just enough, and Gilks knows that emphasising it would only ruin the 'not giving a flying pig' thing he's going for, which in itself would be just enough to rub it in.

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But Gilks isn't interupting Dirk. He can't. It's not in his character. He can't think on his feet very well. Notice how in his only interruption of the scene ("Quiet Cjelli") he has to pause and throw in an "Anyway" afterwards to stall for time?

I said "as if you're interrupting someone". Gilks is not actually interrupting Dirk. He only says it as if he were. I just couldn't come up with any better way to explain it. The actual reason for emphasising 'what' is to emphasise the fact that Dirk's guess was wrong, instead of for example emphasising the fact that it's that particular envelope, which is the effect you would get from emphasising 'this' instead of 'what', and that would sound odd in the context.

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It's good to see that there are some people out there who take all this really seriously.

(Nothing sarcastic about that remark.)

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Because the constable has never met Dirk before. And yes, Gilks is rubbing the Svlad thing in, but he doesn't have to emphasise it, since it annoys Dirk just as much if it isn't emphasised. The fact that Gilks introduces Dirk as Svlad to the constable annoys Dirk just enough, and Gilks knows that emphasising it would only ruin the 'not giving a flying pig' thing he's going for, which in itself would be just enough to rub it in.

Well, Dirk has never met the constable before either, but you don't hear Gilks introducing the constable to him. The whole point of that line is to say that his name is still Svlad. I'm just afraid that if I read it sounding bored (which is how it will sound without emphasis,) Gilks will come across as cool. He's not. He may be clever, but he's incredibly insecure. I think he would have a tendency to overdo it. Subtlety is not his forte.
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I said "as if you're interrupting someone". Gilks is not actually interrupting Dirk. He only says it as if he were. I just couldn't come up with any better way to explain it. The actual reason for emphasising 'what' is to emphasise the fact that Dirk's guess was wrong, instead of for example emphasising the fact that it's that particular envelope, which is the effect you would get from emphasising 'this' instead of 'what', and that would sound odd in the context."

I'm still not understanding this one. Perhaps because I'm American? I don't know. It just can't say the line with an emphasis on "what." Besides that, I don't see why Gilks should emphasize that Dirk's guess is wrong. It's not as if Dirk is on a quiz show and he doesn't know the answer. He's being a smartass. In order to cut him off from any future comments of a similar nature (after all, this one got him flustered), Gilks must admit that "yes, there is an envelope in possession of the dons," but "no, that's not the one that he's referring to."

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Well, Dirk has never met the constable before either, but you don't hear Gilks introducing the constable to him.

Gilks sees no reason to be polite towards Dirk. The Constable, however, may find it useful to know who he's arresting.

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The whole point of that line is to say that his name is still Svlad.

Ofcourse, but that will be emphasised enough just by saying it, without emphasis. The not-giving-a-flying-pig attitude will cover it. And there's nothing wrong with sounding bored, since Gilks is in fact quite bored, or at least pretending to be.

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He may be clever, but he's incredibly insecure.

You may have a point there. Hmm...an idea: Perhaps you could try speaking in an odd rythm, in an unsteady tone? Maybe even adding a slight stutter?

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I'm still not understanding this one. Perhaps because I'm American? I don't know. It just can't say the line with an emphasis on "what."

I've heard several Canadian actors do it. William Shatner and Jim Carrey, to name a couple. (Innuendo not intended.) You just say the first word quickly in a higher pitch, take a very short (in this particular case almost nonexistent) pause, and then throw the rest of the line out there in a normal pitch and normal pace. It's harder to describe it than to actually do it.

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Besides that, I don't see why Gilks should emphasize that Dirk's guess is wrong. It's not as if Dirk is on a quiz show and he doesn't know the answer. He's being a smartass.

You see, this is where the detective's insecurity comes in.
-I'm...guessing that's the one stored in the staffroom?
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...(this is where Gilks notices that he's speaking without thinking)...no. (This is were Gilks gets insecure. And when one gets insecure after being hit with sarchasm, one gets literal.) What this envelope contains was written by you...under hypnosis. This he says not because Dirk doesn't know it, but because Gilks simply can't come up with a snappy comeback, and so he just corrects Dirk's intentional error just to keep the conversation moving towards the actual arrest. The emphasis should be on "what" because he's pointing out that it's in fact not the one stored in the staffroom; the emphasis should be on "you" because he's pointing out that it was not written by the dons; and the emphasis should be on "hypnosis" because the hypnosis was one of the differences between Dirk and the dons at the time of writing.
Or something like that. I'm not even sure why Gilks even mentions the hypnosis, since it's the closest thing Dirk has to an alibi.

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I'm still waiting to get into the studio and re-record the lines. Perhaps it would make sense for Fleppo to post a temp version until then.

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That's revolting!
As far as I remember I'm done with a basic darft for epIII, tho' only God can tell.

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Now, seriously, we have an initial epI and an initial script for epIII (!) that is to say that this place should be bustling, 'cause we have a whole bunch of things to do. But where is everybody? I haven't seen James or Dip lurking around for like... well, for a considerable tract of time!

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Whatever happened to Episode II?

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Me answer:
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I haven't the foggiest. But I have the script somewhere on my computer. I recall having a lot of Gordon in it. We need to have a very good Gordon.

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Just posting to say I'm alive. I haven't been around much either, stupid school.

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