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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:20 am 
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I notice it's available on play.com from a quite reasonable £7.99 and also with a release date on play of 9/11/08, a few days earlier than other places who give the date of 13/11/08. However:

Can anyone confirm that this CD release will be extended, like the Dirk1 and the later hitchhiker phases? I can't seem to find this confirmed anywhere, and on e.g. the play.com website the running time is quoted as 3hrs... Also, it doesn't say it's extended on the cover (as it did for the other phases)

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Yes, it will be an extended edition.

Although Dirk Maggs admits he quite likes the tighter cut for radio.


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Ah excellent :-) Thanks Kevin for the info!

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The 13th is a Thursday. Books and stuff generally get officially released on a Thursday in order for the reviews to make the Sunday papers when people have more time to read reviews. It also happened that that Thursday was originally scheduled to be the day the last episode of the radio series was broadcast.

Retailers get their stock shipped to them before the release date, usually the Friday/Saturday before. Play will have an expected delivery date from their wholesaler/the publisher and then expect to send out pre-orders a day or two later. If you are big enough (i.e. JK Rowling) then retailers will take embargoes and official publication dates into account, but for something like this then that is not a consideration and they want to get the product shipped as soon as possible and the customer billed. Hence they advertise the 9th, a Sunday, as this will be the date they plan to ship pre-orders.

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comming to a bittorrent soon......no doubt.
anyone found it yet? i'm still looking

and before anyone pipes in about copyright karma didn't Douglas once say that it was infact a good thing to copy stuff otherwise we'd have lost a lot of Dr who.

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stejacorca wrote:
Some things are worth buying.



can't, i'm skint, xmas has just been

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and before anyone pipes in about copyright karma didn't Douglas once say that it was infact a good thing to copy stuff otherwise we'd have lost a lot of Dr who.

Well, we have a forum rule, if i know where to find a link i'll post it. We are not against Private Messaging the links though, but please don't post it on the public forums.

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ok.


it's my birthday so post me the link :lol:

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erm, thanks.

not quite the link i was looking for.
maybe i'll just have to go out and BUY IT! :evil:

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erm, thanks.

not quite the link i was looking for.
maybe i'll just have to go out and BUY IT! :evil:

Gotcha!

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erm, thanks.

not quite the link i was looking for.
maybe i'll just have to go out and BUY IT! :evil:

Gotcha!


hey if wasn't for people breaking copyright we'd have missed out certain Dr whos, Douglas admited it himself, plus i think the BBC are rich enough not to give a shit, all the actors would have been paid so everyones happy, plus if they we're that interested in making so much money from the recording why put it on the radio? i could have recorded it off there.

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i've just thought of another thing, i pay my BBC licence fee, i've listened to it on the radio, now why do the BBC tend to place things on iplayer for a resticted length of time and not allow it to be downloaded or stored?
you'd think with the money they get from the licence fee that they'd be able to spend some money on large capacity servers and store it on there for long periods of time?
so why do they have to make more money by selling it on CD?

doesn't quite ad up to me, it's like paying for it twice

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i've just thought of another thing, i pay my BBC licence fee, i've listened to it on the radio, now why do the BBC tend to place things on iplayer for a resticted length of time and not allow it to be downloaded or stored?
you'd think with the money they get from the licence fee that they'd be able to spend some money on large capacity servers and store it on there for long periods of time?
so why do they have to make more money by selling it on CD?

doesn't quite ad up to me, it's like paying for it twice

I agree with all your views on this bagger me ol' mate but it would be silly of us to encourage it here.

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I'll have no links to any illegal torrents on this site. Period. As Scratchs link says. Fans who download their "idols" work, I don't know how their minds work. But then again, I am not one who should raise my voice too highly in these matters, I'm not a saint and it's a ll a big dilemma so I'll just shuddup now...

I had an email conversation with Dirk Maggs about torrents and downloading, and he said the following:
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"If it's downloadable, it must belong to everybody" is a common
assumption these days and in most cases encourages breach of
copyright laws. Those laws were not put in place to protect mega-rich
corporations or extort money from people who happened to miss iPlayer
repeats but to protect the jobs of hundreds of thousands of ordinary
people working in high-risk low-employment creative areas. People whose work we all get pleasure from, yet some misguided folks would rather not pay for.

Think about all those names in tiny print on the credit crawl at the
end of the movies to which your Gran says "I can't believe it took so
many people to make one film". None of these earn millions per job
like Brad Pitt and George Clooney. They have to get by at 'scale'
rates - sometimes working for less than the minimum wage. If you
watch pirated or downloaded file-shared copies of those movies, you
stick it to those people first. Their jobs dry up first.

The iPlayer repeats are limited in avalability mainly because of
agreements with craft guilds and unions protecting their members'
livelihoods. The majority of actors, writers, musicians and recording
studios don't live charmed lives. They have bills to pay, kids to
feed, illnesses to treat, and the less money the BBC make from
commercial sales, the less it can invest in ambitious productions
like HHGG and DG - which in turn employs actors, writers, musicians
and recording studios.

On the basis of the arguments presented in the thread we should all
refuse to pay our water utility bills because water falls from the
sky for free anyway. But until Bit Torrent work out a way to fit some
kind of free water outlet on people's computers, people will pay for
their water, as by and large it's the best way to be sure of
maintaining a quality-controlled water supply.

Taking something for nothing without the permission of, or
compensation to, those who invest their time and trouble in providing
it is *wrong*, and whatever Douglas might have said in an amusing and
off-the-cuff way about file sharing, let's be clear - he never gave
work away for free, unless for charity.

Whatever one may think of the licence fee, the separate commercial
sale of programmes (with extra value material added by people like me
to make them more *worth* buying) helps fund BBC production. If that
income is undermined, the choice on BBC Radio will eventually come
down to either repeats, or new productions which are just single
voice readings with no FX and no music. And for those who say 'great,
we can listen to Douglas reading his own stuff' - sure, but Douglas's
original idea for Hitchhiker's would have died stillborn in a BBC
with no budgets for multicast productions with sound effects and music.

If ripping off other people's work was fair and acceptable, by now
there'd surely be a barter system where those ripping off creatives
by uploading their work would allow us access to the fruits of THEIR
labours. Free insurance, banking, clothes, food and books from all
the insurance workers, bankers, clothing manufacturers, farmers and
novelists who download OUR stuff.

It's not fair, it's not acceptable, it's just wrong. If you don't
want to pay, then find something else to do.

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Thank you Dirk and Duke. If you can't afford it now, ask for it as a gift from a friend of family member, or wait until you can afford it.

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But Dirk, what if I want to download some Riotous Brothers tracks???

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Very well put Dirk.

The commercial arm of the BBC no doubt keeps the cost of the licence down, just like the fact that people moan about how extravagant Top Gear is, yet it is the most syndicated programme out there.

This does remind me of a conversation some of us had at the QI meet, when I for one, and possibly others, had obtained a certain film knowing full well that when it was available for release on DVD I would purchase it (especially with the nice mug from WH Smith's...) So no income lost there either.

Anyhow, I'm going to treat myself to Dirk 2.0 today as I missed all but the first episode on the radio so I decided to wait and listen to the extended version.

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well, i have to agree with what Dirk has put there.
i guess in this day and age it's a long way from the old VHS tapes recording a few episodes of Dr who to save it from becoming extinct.

i'll have to buy it if i want to listen to it again, might have to invest in a lot more of Douglas's work to keep the piece too ooops.

guess if i ever meet Dirk and he's read this i'll be in for an arse kicking good'n proper :shock:

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guess if i ever meet Dirk and he's read this i'll be in for an arse kicking good'n proper :shock:


Ha ha! Don't worry about that! We've given him your address.

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guess if i ever meet Dirk and he's read this i'll be in for an arse kicking good'n proper :shock:


Ha ha! Don't worry about that! We've given him your address.


you bast! :lol:
he'd be more than welcome round my house any day.

i would've bought the CD's this month but lastnight i blew my 1GB miniSD card in my phone, ain't got a clue how it happened.
have just ordered a 2GB miniSD off t'ebay for £4.99!! bargain.
and i hear you all say but that's peanuts so go buy the CD...can't, am skint and i mean SKINT :shock:

memory card is needed more than CD as i have to get satnav software back on the phone before i go back to work

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